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Illustrator text on a path question

I have a circle, and I wish to put 2 sets of text around it. One set of text is above, going from left to right, clockwise on the outside of the circle.

But the other I want to go below the circle, on the outside, similar to the top set. I want it to go from left to right as well, but this is counter-clockwise, which is something illustrator seems to dislike very much.

I have tried many things, from holding shift, to rotating and flipping the circle, to basically everything I can think of, sadly, nothing gets what I want. Please help.

Oh, and booooo to no posting of images, i want to make a quick sketch and make this question a lot easier!!!

Thanks

Yeah, a sketch would be much easier to understand

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