
July 27th, 2003
08:55 AM

Wow you guys have put alot of work into that. Good Job!
I noticed in the forth paragraph down
XHTML requires a closing on ALL tags. You know your favorite <br> tags? Well now, it's <br/> The "/" at the end makes up for a lack of a closing tag.
I think it is supposed to be "space/" because I think I got busted for not having the space when validating.
Also, I was hoping the section for tables to divs would be a little bit more in depth. The positioning of the divs is the only thing that is still not real clear to me in XHTML. I can absolute position them to the left, but I can never find in a tutorial or book where someone explains a clear rock solid way to replace "table align<center>". For example, when I have 5 divs containing images in a line, I can't ever get them to sit right in the middle of the page without stretching, moving or jumping to the next line. And if I do get them to sit centered in the page, when I change the size of the browser window they don't move to the center again like a table would. So if you all could include something like that in the tutorial I am sure alot more people would jump on the css bandwagon. I know I would. 
Thanks for all the work you all have done already.

July 27th, 2003
09:00 AM
Hey thanks a lot for the comments etcher... We're planning on adding a lot more detail in version 1.1 of the tutorial! Also, about the extra space issue, I don't think it matters but I'll try it out right now.
*** EDIT ***
Just tested it with an XHTML 1.0 Strict doctype...
And well, it turns out, as I suspected, the extra space isn't needed. I usually add it anyway just because that's the way I like to do it.
Sample Page: http://home.comcast.net/~fredv4/tf/xhtml-test.html
Validate It: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.com ... tf%2Fxhtml-test.html
Thanks for the suggestion though!
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July 27th, 2003
01:26 PM

I think the space was meant to be in there because of compatibility issues with Netscape browsers, AFAIK. At least, that's what I've read around the place. But you'd think they would have fixed those issues by now. I suppose that makes the point moot.
Nice guide, I definitely found a few useful things from it! I liked the part about the @media explanations - I'll definitely be using that if I ever create anything I anticipate will be printed.
One problem with the PHP code section though:
Make sure to read the comments and change them appropriately! Now, your links should look like:
<a href="?news">News</a>
That won't work as expected. In PHP, that will create the element "news" in the GET array, not the element "id". That will break your script. I think you mean:
instead.
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Last edited by Jeb, July 27th, 2003 01:35 PM (Edited 1 times)

July 27th, 2003
02:55 PM
Thanks Jeb. I knew I remembered something about the space. I have a short memory. 

July 27th, 2003
08:03 PM
Woah thanks Jeb... Server-side legend.
I'll fix the PHP error -- Thanks for pointing that out.
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July 27th, 2003
08:16 PM
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Wow, tons of great comments.
Ready to start 1.1 as soon as you get on AIM, Fred.
(Yeah I'm being a bugger, so what..)

July 28th, 2003
03:42 AM
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And you guys didn't include me with this tutorial? :
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.. What's the font that you are using, is it Georgia? That font seems to popular with CSS driven sites for some reason.
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July 28th, 2003
04:03 AM
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I don't know, Fred likes it. 
Well, Apoc, maybe if you wrote/coded it we would have. 

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Dan: But you never asked me to help write/code it 
But atleast you included some of my CSS tips
I'm flattered
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July 28th, 2003
04:22 AM
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Haha you should be, you're famous! 