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Originally posted by vogonpoet
*pops head in again*

no personal insults please, thanks

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jason, i feel sorry for you. your being cheated by your own governmt.
its going to be tuff when later on, you see and get the big picture

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PIMPBUSTER: there is no need to patronize ppl.

Please do not belittle ppl. It is not necessary.

K? thanks

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lol, VP you're brutal.

Pimp, you are really taking a left sided view to the entire situation. It's good to have an opinion, but to continue to tell people they're wrong, is a little different.

This war, for the 19th time, is not about oil, it never was, there is no intention, if there is any other intention besides the 40 they've given so far, it would be of a grudge matter. Considering Bill Clinton had knowledge of such workings 5+ years ago, and did nothing cause the polls told him no, do you want to go off calling Clinton an idiot and cheating the people?

The nature of political science is the study and research of government, it's policies and the presentation of your views and thoughts. A debate goes to an arguement when you start claiming people are wrong for what they are thinking, or when you resort to insulting.

Being cheated by the government, that's the oddest thing I've heard. You have to understand, a government is run by people, not a person, people make mistakes, cause of different views, morals, and opinions.. of course someone is going to think they are being cheated, cause the majority decision may not be suitable to a group of people. The protests going on around the country have gotten violent, beatings, arrest, some nut preached his beliefs, and say goodbye cruel world from the Golden Gate bridge, and jumped to his death. War changes people, but so do political decisions and acts, no matter how global or domestic they are.

There is no big picture anymore Pimp, the picture you are thinking is nothing but a jiggsaw puzzle, which shall NEVER be put forth to completion if we all decide to keep our own piece. Your big picture that you may have, is not necessarily the picture of the majoriy, minority, or even independant minds.

I never said protests were bad, I support them, however, the protests should not be disrupting corporate and daily American lives, regardless if it is America, or any of the other countries that are protesting the war, and we know there are many. By doing so, you only hurt the economy, not in a major way, but in more of an image. It's embarrassing for people around the globe to see a nation getting beaten by police because they are carrying on and getting hyped about their views and morals about the entire situation. It's not fair to anyone, and it should not be a factor of this war, however, people are entitled and naturally born with an instinct of belief, and what you believe in, depending on your aggression level, determines the extent you shall take your beliefs, and to what extremes.

Everyone on here has expressed some very good views Pimp, and they have established many good points. You however call them biased and self-centered, and pretend that we love war(if you do not mean that, I apologize, the way you word makes you think of the people who are supporting the troops as war mongers). No one likes war, and Bush certainly had this planned from the get go, and as he has stated earlier, this is only the beginning stages, so if you think this is bad, a whole new level of extremity is about to be revealed to prying eyes, and it shall be realized, that this war will not resolve until Saddam is either killed, or exiled, or even captured.

You're right, this war is political, it's decided by the aged men and some women of this world, and it's the young who go off to carry the plan and risk their lives. Ironic isn't it? The point of this war is unknown, because little information is provided from all the recent objective hopping.

I do not support this war act, I do not support Bush, I don't really support most of the American government, but I do know they do try, and I do support anyone who is willing to take up arms for their country, regardless of the side portrayed, that is an honorable and courageous act in a man or woman's life, and none of you can object to that. Fighting for what you believe is in every person's heart, so even the bad guys deserve that level of notability.

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Originally posted by Locke

I do not support this war act, I do not support Bush, I don't really support most of the American government, but I do know they do try, and I do support anyone who is willing to take up arms for their country, regardless of the side portrayed, that is an honorable and courageous act in a man or woman's life, and none of you can object to that. Fighting for what you believe is in every person's heart, so even the bad guys deserve that level of notability.

well said.

Brutal but fair.

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Originally posted by vogonpoet
Jason1234: warned for insulting.

People: keep it non-personal!!!!!!!!!

Where did i insult him?

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Originally posted by Jason1234
Where did i insult him?

just another abuse of power. It is funny how none on the mods have any warning points.

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Originally posted by noxcel.com
just another abuse of power. It is funny how none on the mods have any warning points.

yeah, i dont even know how i insulted him:confused:

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Originally posted by noxcel.com
just another abuse of power. It is funny how none on the mods have any warning points.

If they did, they wouldn't be mods anymore silly, you obviously have a nice collection of 5 warning points, are you going to tell me they're all unfair? VP and the others rarely make personal issues and go warning for fun, cause we have to justify it in the staff forum as well, if it is seen unfair, it will be retracted, if not, it will remain, there is no abuse of power going on here.

Please state how it was abuse of power as well, that should be most interesting. Jason, he wasn't meaning you were insulting him, he meant to Pimp.

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Last edited by Locke, March 24th, 2003 07:14 PM (Edited 1 times)

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Originally posted by Locke
Jason, he wasn't meaning you were insulting him, he meant to Pimp.

then why did i get a warning point, if i didnt insult anyone?

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