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CSS is driving me insane

It's supposed to maximize ease of use, and it's something I really really want to learn to do well. These CSS sites recently are sexy as hell. Positioning stuff and getting it to fit together is driving me CRAZY though. I can't do it. It doesn't seem easier than tables whatsoever. I'm about to just say f*ck it.

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This site is a "CSSlolsite", and you're posting in the completely wrong forum. If you look downwards, you'll see a section for Client-Side coding, post there for help.

CSS is a language, it doesn't make a site sexier or uglier just because you use it. All sites in general make use of CSS nowadays. The question is how much they use it, and how well.

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Neversidian, your staff is broken.

Moved to Clientside....

orkeau -- stick with it. I was plenty frustrated myself when I got started, but I stuck with it and kept learning and practicing. Though I'm no CSS god (*cough Simon cough*) I can make my way around pretty well now.

If you're serious about wanting to learn this and are really stuck/frustrated, I strongly suggest picking up a good CSS book. The one I have used and personally recommend is CSS Mastery by Andy Budd. Those by any of the well-known CSS masters are good as well I'm sure (e.g. Eric Meyer, Dan Cederholm, etc). Among other things, these books (well CSS Mastery does for sure) gather together all the best practices and techniques into one place for your convenience - all the same info is likely available for free online, but spread over a wide array of sites. Grab a book, sit down at Starbucks or whatever, and read it all the way through. Then come back and you will have a fresh perspective and will likely have overcome whatever was getting you stuck before.

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-- Dave
Neverside Admin

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If you would like a few books that might help, or at least that are still helping me, try "Eric Meyer on CSS" or "More Eric Meyer on CSS" or even just the definitive guide by Eric Meyer. He is fundamentally one of the best people I can see teaching CSS as he makes it so simple to understand it's crazy!!!

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A decent book is Stylin' with CSS.

The biggest pain for me was understanding when to set a position for an element and what type of position. Primarily Absolute or Relative. An absolute positioned element is relative to it's parent element who's position is relative, if none, it's relative to the body....I think...

The second pain for positioning was columns...they need to have a float set, and setting a float makes the elements not very friendly to work with in a block type setup...causing undesirable overlaying issues. You must clear the float at the end of floated items.

These were my two major stepping stones for css positioning.

-Nick

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