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So we have the following elements:

crudca = create, reteive, update, delete, cache, archive (the latter 2 you can worry about later)

user - crudca
thread - crudca
post - crudca
memberGroup - crudca
newsItem - crudca
game - crudca
developer - crudca

Are we seeing a pattern?

1st thing to do, take each element, and decide what properties/attributes/field it should have e.g. game has: developer, title, id, rating, etc

Where to start learning:

Manual - read and print the strings section

1. How to handle html form submissions and validate basic data. (7 days)
2. How to insert a record into a database table. (1 day)
3. How to find a record from a database table. (2 hours, for doing it by ID)
4. How to update a record in a database table. (2 hours, doing it by ID)
5. How to delete a record in a database table. (5 minues, doing it by ID)

Stop calling it a 'script' you will likely (you should), have several scripts, not one all encompassing godlike structure.

If you cover 1 to 5, to a degree where you can replicate the work, it will take you approximately 2 weeks to complete the php for what you want.

"im only good at managment This could be a verry painfull learning experiance..." - Trying desperately not to comment on that, although I would expect a manager to be able to break down a task, even by what you need it to do and hence notice a pattern and identify what to learn :-)

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where is a good site to learn php, i can understand simple scripts and how they work i just couldnt make my own from scratch. Whats the best tutorial site? thanks

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I didnt see this thread until just now, but whoever said making a custom engine on par with gamespot/etc would reach into 6 figures would probably be correct. The design and structure markup alone would cost you somewhere in the ballpark of $10k.

You get what you pay for. If you find someone to do it for free, or less than what they think they should be getting paid, it will probably never get done, or will be poorly coded.

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gettin it done from a firm would cost even more
around 20k+

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"I didnt see this thread until just now, but whoever said making a custom engine on par with gamespot/etc would reach into 6 figures would probably be correct. The design and structure markup alone would cost you somewhere in the ballpark of $10k."

- While I do not visit these websites, and I wouldn't care to comment on the cost of the design quoted at 10k, the rest I find it hard to beleive :-)

What major functionality do they provide? From the quick look I took, I saw nothing beyond a basic dynamic website... crudca..... if there is some actual computation involved, I'd love to know.

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so, how much would you charge dibby, iv been trying to learn php since my last post and iv had no luck, so im back ot hunting for somone to help.
Does anyone know were i could find somone who would like to join as part of the team, gaining full acsess to the site once its done.

Thats what im looking for, but it seems it wont hapten as money is not involved. id love it if money was involved but unfortunalty to begin with no money will be involved. maby in the future.

If i find somone who would like to join as a team member, money may e involed in the future, and i dont expect the coder to make somthing like IGN or Gamespot strait away all i want is the simple stuff, but as im looking for a team member it meens the code can slowly be developed ect.

please dont shoot me down, i know its just adream, i just thort i shud put it forward incase any of you know anyone or any of you are interested yourselvs in helping in that sort of way.

Oh well, thanks for helping with the list of things i should do to study php, it would have helped if i wasnt so stupid...

Estimating the code of a project is a perilous task, anyone who tells you otherwise is a fool. However, I would guestimate for the basic spec listed excluding design and front end, arround $1400

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why not do it yourself SQL isn't hard to learn. All u need is apache mysql and php4 or 5

This is a very good site to learn sql from. http://www.w3schools.com/
As for the php u can find millions of tutorials that teach u how to use mysql and php together.
http://www.freewebmasterhelp.com/tutorials/phpmysql/1 Heres a tutorial I used back in the day.

If u're stuck then u can always ask here and we'll do our best to help.

Depending on what u're trying to do u may need html ( used to build web pages) tutorial as well. which is on w3schools as well.

I recommend phpedit (an application that helps u code php). It's free for noncommerical use and is easy to use as well. http://www.waterproof.fr/

Last edited by schoi, January 28th, 2006 01:40 AM (Edited 1 times)

This is great: http://www.zend.com/php/beginners/index.php

enjoy and good luck :]

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There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

If you don't mind me asking, why exactly are you after a custom solution? Most of the functionality that you're after is already available for free from open-source projects:

1) Forum: punBB, phpBB, vBulletin (license required) etc
2) CMS (Content Management System): TextPatterm, Wordpress, Movable Type etc

There are many cross-over scripts/ snippets of code that can we used to bring the entire project together: for example, you could arrange so that vBulletin and Movable type used the same members database, to prevent duplicate sign ups. There are also lots of plugins available that work as extentions to help you realise your project.

Good luck, and let us know how you get along!