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Solution to Terror?

So what is the solution to the middle eastern terror problem?

I'll post my solution later.

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Really though...
I think we could maybe take a more aggressive approach against known terrorism. Iraq was bad, but it wasn't exactly the big terrorism. What going on in Iraq will help the US later if it works out correctly. We are already seeing some effects of it with Lebanon and Iraq moving towards more democratic societies.

The problem is so complex because you have Islam, a good religion but with a very tight hold on the people. Some people taking advantage of it and brainwashing people. Now, if democracy continues to spread, which would allow people some freedom of thought and start being more aggressive towards actual terrorists, then there wouldn't be such backing towards these people and less new recruits.

I don't know... it makes sense in my mind with more explanation but I'm tired and I want to go to sleep.

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The first "solution" that comes to my mind is a peacful negotiation. As with any conflict or problem, there are two sides. In this case, we have an ideology of radical Islam, and those who justify their actions with their interpretation of religion; and we have the United States as well as other western nations aimed at defeating an abstraction, terrorism. Now, to solve problems, peacefully, it is essential to understand the perspectives of both sides. I am not at all sympathizing for radical Muslims when I say this, but has anyone even bothered to understand where these people are coming from? Are they just a group of lunatics that have nothing better to do than to cause harm to their fellow human beings? Obviously there is some reason/motivation to their current understanding and preception of western nations. Furthermore, (again im not sympathizing), has anyone ever viewed the actions of the United States as "extreme?" In my opinion there are two extremist ideologies at battle. Of course, as already mentioned, radical interpretations of Islam, but also an extreme ideology of democracy. America has to realize that no nation has the responsibility of forcing a political system into a region. Many Middle Eastern nations, and more to come, have lost their sovereignity to the west. It is as if they have absolutely no say in matters that concern their very existence.

So basically, I think if the two sides can meet, and negotiate their differences, this on-going plague to humanity could soon end.

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Last edited by hydrophilic, August 30th, 2005 06:52 AM (Edited 2 times)

0 privacy. Without privacy, crime / terrorism is extremely difficult.

Oppressive societies = little crime and rebellion. They may be corrupt, but they sure as hell don't have loonies going around blowing up stuff trying to send out a "message".

You have some good points Michael and I agree with most of what you said, but my opinion differs slightly and it sort of builds on to your idea.

I think that the best solution to the problem is not in our hands but in the hands of the Middle Eastern people themselves. As Michael said they have a "good religion" but it's manipulated by people to cause harm, but were I differ from Michael is in the idea that democracy alone will fix this. I don't think that democracy will fix the problems with Islam, it could actually make some things worse. I believe it could make things much worse because, for example, in Iraq they are working on a new constitution, but who gave them that ability? The US did we came in and "liberated" them. They, the mass of the Iraqi people, didn't liberate themselves, they didn't start the fight for their own freedom, it wasn't their idea to bring about a new secular democratic government. It means so much more when you and your people fight for something that you want, then when someone else does it for you. So this brings up the questions: How bad to they want this secular government? How do we know that we aren't just making another Iran?

The US has very little power over the real big problem and the best thing I think the US can do is try to bring about new ideas and influences, without force. Once the rise from the people becomes apparent and itâ??s the will of the people to over through their government then we need to be standing by to say, â??Hey we support you and are willing to help be it necessaryâ?�. Only once the will of the people has changed Islam change, and then democracy can start itâ??s progression into this region.

Edit: I forgot about what hydrophilic pointed out, but I agree with that opinion also; to a point.

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Last edited by Tool, August 30th, 2005 07:25 AM (Edited 1 times)

what pingu said: abolish privacy, we need transparency, otherwise, if you get rid of terrorism you have oppresive governments. To get rid of both you need complete transparency, everywhere and available to everyone.
The only complete solution there is.
Everything else is just a compromise.

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While a complete lack of privacy is a way to stop terrorism, I don't know that I view that as a "solution", unless we use the strictest sense of the word. The perpetrators of terrorism are, for the most part, radical Muslims who are bent on the destruction of Israel and the global spread of Islam. The technological and economical implications of "0 privacy" are staggering (unless we exclude certain private things (i.e. privacy of thought)). Thus a much more practical solution, and one that is easily achievable, assuming everyone were completely committed to the elimination of terrorism, is to adopt a unified, worldwide caliphate under Sharia law, force the global conversion of Islam (though it wouldn't really be "forcing" if everyone truly wanted the cessation of terrorism), and to eliminate the Jewish race. Now that might stop terrorism, but is it truly a solution? Of course not.

So, in this case, we need to agree on a definition of "solution". Is it just "something that works" or more like "something that works while pleasing the most people"... ?

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At the moment, there are no plausible solutions to the problem. The fight just has to go on. After all, the best defense is a strong offense...

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Oh, yes, this is going to be wild.

Originally posted by michael:

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Really though...
I think we could maybe take a more aggressive approach against known terrorism. Iraq was bad, but it wasn't exactly the big terrorism. What going on in Iraq will help the US later if it works out correctly. We are already seeing some effects of it with Lebanon and Iraq moving towards more democratic societies.

The problem is so complex because you have Islam, a good religion but with a very tight hold on the people. Some people taking advantage of it and brainwashing people. Now, if democracy continues to spread, which would allow people some freedom of thought and start being more aggressive towards actual terrorists, then there wouldn't be such backing towards these people and less new recruits.

I don't know... it makes sense in my mind with more explanation but I'm tired and I want to go to sleep.

So you think that acting more aggressively towards other religions will give you better results? Now we can read from papers that US soldiers are torturing these so called "detainees", that isn't aggressive enough? I mean seriously...you think those people will thank you after that treatment? Or that they would trust you?

There is still NO evidence that Iraq was the source of terrorism. But I can read/found evidence that US soldiers used phosporus as a weapon against civilians. So I would just like to know what is the definition of terrorism.

Killing innocent people?

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you're right lumous, and of course the whole idea of spreading democracy is stupid. Not only are the coalition powers creating more terrorism with their oppressive campaigns, but some of the best governments are not democratic at all (Especially those who are controlled by a religious leader whom the people love)

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