
July 25th, 2005
07:07 PM
Neverside Newbie
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Copying/Pasting into a new image is too small
Hello----I've been a user of PSP7 for a few weeks now. Here is the problem I have been experiencing. I open a new image, bring up the graphic I want to work with, copy it, paste it into the new image as a new layer and it is WAYYYYY too small! I am also having a problem with the dimensions on the new image. Whether I paste it as a new image, layer or transparency, it makes no difference. I like to set my numbers at 500 X 500.(pixels)..yet to get this size, I have to go up to 800 X 800. I havent changed any settings on anything....so why is this happening?

July 26th, 2005
06:01 AM
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I don't use PSP...so I don't know if you really wanna read this...but it sounds like a problem with resolution. An image at 500 x 500 pixels and 300 dpi is going to look over three times bigger than an image at 500 x 500 pixels and 72 dpi.
The DPI is going to make a lot of difference in size.
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July 26th, 2005
07:34 AM
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dpi relates to the amount of color per pixel dot. The web uses 72 dots per inch. where as an image at 300 dots per inch would make the image more colorful & clearer. though dots per inch do increase file weight size they do not change the file dimension size of an image that is being copied & pasted. after all it is an exact copy.
what are the dimensions of the image you are trying to copy & paste? see view>image information.
are you viewing the image at 100% or at the screen ratio size?
if a new images is created at 500x500 pixels, 72 dpi, 16 million colours with transparant background, you may only be viewed it at 80%, see the bar at the top of the image.
select view>normal viewing.
when you open up a photo image, copy and paste it as a new layer onto your new image
the size of the copied image should be the same as the original you copied from.
try these two sites...corel knowledge base search or pspug.org
http://support.corel.com/
http://pspug.org/
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July 26th, 2005
07:46 PM
l a z y d e s i g n e r
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I don't use PSP but --
If you're copying from a document that has a lower resolution than the one you're pasting to, the image will be smaller when it gets to the paste-ing file, I should think. That's the way it works in Photoshop.
Last edited by liquid_arch, July 26th, 2005 07:47 PM (Edited 1 times)

July 26th, 2005
08:04 PM
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definition of resolution: (computer science) the number of pixels per square inch on a computer-generated display; the greater the resolution, the better the picture.
There is no possible way for the resolution to effect the dimensions of an image as above.
It only effects the weight of the image in kb/mb/gb
The area you copy is the area that is pasted. if you copy a 500x500 size image it will paste as a 500x500 image unless you are pasting it into a selection or some other task.
Also you should always promote any image (jpg, gif, etc.) to a raster layer and save it as a pspimage before working on it. Never work on the original. A message may pop up telling you the colour has to be increased. Press okay and it will do it for you or you can choose to do it yourself from the menu under Image.
Great advice: if you dont know dont answer.
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July 27th, 2005
12:31 AM
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Ok----I THINK I know how to fix this problem now. I havent BEEN working with raster layers at all. The size of the graphics when I download them from the web is probably what I need to be paying attention to as well. Never suspected that! Thanks so much for all the help!

July 27th, 2005
01:57 AM
l a z y d e s i g n e r
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Oh, excuse me. I used the term 'resolution' loosely, I guess. By resolution, I wasn't talking about how many pixels on your screen a thing is, but the final dpi of the document you're working on. That's where I used to make most of my mistakes -- I'd take a scan of something I'd drawn -- (at 300 resolution, it seems my scanner calls it) -- and drop it into a document of the same dimensions (8 X 6, say) that had a lower 'resolution' (150 dpi) and it would be way too big.
Chickodee : Sorry if I confused you somehow, and made what you were trying to do more difficult for some reason.
OneLife : Eat my shorts. :P I'm sure I know what I'm talking about, and relatively clear about all the terms I use, for the most part.

July 28th, 2005
04:57 AM
dpi relates to the amount of color per pixel dot. The web uses 72 dots per inch. where as an image at 300 dots per inch would make the image more colorful & clearer. though dots per inch do increase file weight size they do not change the file dimension size of an image that is being copied & pasted. after all it is an exact copy.
On screen a file that is 500 x 500 px at 72dpi will look much smaller than a file that is 500 x 500 px at 300dpi. The dpi won't change the dimensions for printing, but it does change how a file is displayed on the monitor (which is set to a specific dpi as well).
That is the reason why there is a difference when the image is being pasted into the other one. Not because it isn't a raster layer, or because you are using a selection, but because the image is read in a different way.
If you are not going to print the files, work with them at 72dpi.
Last edited by malephika, July 28th, 2005 05:00 AM (Edited 1 times)

July 28th, 2005
05:46 PM
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liquid arch...are they tasty, i like speggetti and meatballs...ROFL
im not here to argue with you or anyone, just to help and that has been done.
scanners way over size stuff to begin with...so the imageS you scan will come out huge...when you paste it from a 300 dpi to a 150 dpi the image will lose its clarity as the pixels will be basically cut in half but the size of the image wont change till you resize it to fit the canvas.
i must have missed something in digital art class though I aced it, my professor must have been hijacked and an idiot put in his place.
DPI DOES NOT CHANGE THE DIMENSIONS OF AN IMAGE.
A 500X500 IMAGE WILL ALWAYS BE A 500X500 IMAGE UNTIL YOU CHANGE IT OTHERWISE.
NO MATTER WHAT DPI IS USED.
DPI PRETAINS TO COLOR CLARITY OF PIXELS. IF I MAKE AN IMAGE AT 72 DPI THEN I GET 72 DOTS OF COLOR PER INCH. IF I MAKE ONE AT 300 DPI I GET 300 DOTS OF COLOR PER INCH. IF I TAKE A 300 DPI IMAGE AND PASTE IT TO A 150 DPI CANVAS MY DPI IS REDUCE TO THE CANVAS DPI AND I LOSE COLOR CLARITY THAT WAS IN THE 300 DPI.
WHEN I SAVE AN IMAGE TO THE WEB THAT IS 300 DPI IT WILL BE BLURRY BECAUSE THE WEB TAKES 72 DPI (THOUGH IT'S MOVING UP TO THE 96 DPI SLOWLY). AND THE MORE I COMPRESS IT TO REDUCE THE WIEGHT (KB/MB/GB) THE BLURRIER IT WILL GET.
Please direct me to where it explains otherwise. ;-)
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July 29th, 2005
07:27 AM
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Onelife, sure you're not here to argue -- the caps actually makes me believe you know less about what you're talking about, not more. As you say though, the important thing is to help, and no matter how muddled it became, I'm guessing we managed it, since it's just us blowhards left talking about it...
Cheers. ^_~