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Wow... that is kind of absurd. The school system should be ashamed of themselves. It's not like anybodys education is being put in jeopardy here.

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Yeah, I could understand if he was in class or something, or perhaps if he was talking loudly to disturb others. If he was cutting class, that too would be a reason to force him to hang up. But to force him to turn his phone off? Talking to your mother in Iraq during school hours seems like a pretty victimless crime if you ask me.

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Doesn't matter if it's harmless, he broke a rule. Therefor, he should be punished.

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He broke a rule.... history is full of rules or laws being broken so a higher purpose could be reached and in my opinion i believe his purpose overruled the "no phone policy" and to answer some questions above I bet you his phone was on just incase his mother tried to call him. I had a friend in school who left her phone on cause her mother was in the hospital in serious condition but I guess this is against the rules as well. Grow a heart... it will be good for you and others.

I have a heart, but I also respect authority. He did not even try to ask for permission nor did he explain what was going on when asked to surrender his phone as he was violating school policy. He simply refused a direct instruction from his authority and then compounded his problem by acting disorderly and swearing et cetera. Had this boy gone through the proper channels or even explained to the teacher it was his mother who is on active duty in Iraq he would have been allowed, teachers and staff enforce the rules but they aren't heartless, they didn't even know who he was talking to, like I said it could have been a drug dealer.

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Originally posted by wingrunner:

I have a heart, but I also respect authority. He did not even try to ask for permission nor did he explain what was going on when asked to surrender his phone as he was violating school policy. He simply refused a direct instruction from his authority and then compounded his problem by acting disorderly and swearing et cetera. Had this boy gone through the proper channels or even explained to the teacher it was his mother who is on active duty in Iraq he would have been allowed, teachers and staff enforce the rules but they aren't heartless, they didn't even know who he was talking to, like I said it could have been a drug dealer.

Where in that article does it say that he swore? The article does state that he was defiant and disorderly but this shows nothing because a schools "rules" on being defiant and disorderly can be something as simple as rolling your eyes at a teacher... and after something like that has happened I think he needs a little bit of slack. The teacher didnt ask who he was talking to either... why didnt she follow the proper channels? Maybe she should of asked the student who he was speaking to instead of just saying "hang up". Maybe this brings up the idea that students should be allowed to speak on the phone if it is an emergency, which in this case I think there should be an exception. The question is is this proper behaviour of a school? Should students be expelled for allowing their emotions to be shown or should they bottle them up? For his punishment I think he should of just gone to the school counselor.

thats stupid....i mean really, is it illegal to talk to people we aint seen for a long time on a phone now too?

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"why didnt she follow the proper channels?"

I'll bet you anything she did. She asked him to turn it off, and when he didn't, it goes up to the administration. Seriously, look at this, just for a minute, from the school's perspective. You have a rule that says no cell phones are to be used during school hours. You come across a student talking on a cell phone. It makes ZERO DIFFERENCE who he's talking to, he's breaking that rule. As a teacher, one of your responsibilities is to enforce the rules. Voila, hang up please.

I'll also bet you anything that if his mom had phoned the school, there wouldn't've been a problem. Instead, she phoned his cell phone, which he had turned on despite the school's rule, and answered despite the school's rule.

It sucks. I say that from the bottom of my heart, it truly sucks. But ... eh, sorry.

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Why do you think the school allows cell phones? There has to be a reason for this. I find it funny that they allow cell phones at school but don't allow them to be used. I see this as an emergency policy. I understand where the school is coming from but maybe if the teacher asked a different way instead of just saying "Hang up" she might have got a better response. She could have said "Excuse me why are you on the phone?" or "Excuse me who are you talking to?" I find that the turning point of this argument. I do know why everyone is arguing about enforcing the rules of the school which I understand but there could have been better ways to treat this situation on both sides. Just don't rule out one side on the basis that "he broke a rule" thats what im saying.

Originally posted by InvisibleCaper:

Yes, indeed, what in the HELL is this world coming to when we attempt to apply rules equally to everybody?

It's irrelevant if the rule is ridiculous (it is), or if the boy is in a unique situation (he is). I'll even agree that 10 days is a ridiculous amount of time to be suspended for that. But if he was getting extremely out of control, and if any other student, at that point, would be given the same punishment ... then I'm sorry, but the suspension was the right thing to do.

I absolutely agree. Rules can be bent, but if he was getting out of hand, the appropriate punishment needed to be taken.

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