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Originally posted by Anees
ok! then im asking u another thing, that how people in your country understood Islam? they know what islam's stands on non-muslims?
If you know plz inform me for this doubt: In which relegion the people are converting their faith more now a days? and to which relegion?
if any have statistical reports, plz add here....

I'd say that most people in Australia have SOME idea of what Islam is like, but admittedly a lot of them view it as a religion for terrorists and nut cases. I'd say that athiest is one of the fastest growing belief systems myself, more and more people (At least where I live) are starting to notice the huge holes in the major religions.

Most people in Australia don't actually seriously follow religion. Only 15% or so put down athiest/no religion in the census (sp?), but I really suspect that a LOT of people that put down Christian/Catholic etc are doing so for cultural reasons/tradition, without actually thinking about. I really get the sense that most people here just don't give a crap about religion.

I've only ever encountered one fundamental christian, and I ended having an argument about religion on my doorstep with him, he ended up excusing himself and made a quick escape.

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Muslims in lebanon don't like the christains their very much and we don't like them that much either. (hence teh lebanese civil war).

As a faith the pricnciples of islam are very good; equality before god, etc...

but as darthy stated above women are treated like second class citizens in most cases and even as slaves.

I have seen women who come dressed ocmpletly in back and there is a small slit the width of a pencil for them to see through. Seems a bit backward to me but this is more a cultural thing the religous.

The Qu'ran (koran) has been misinterprited by some people. which does not surprise me as teh arabic used in it is almost cryptic.

I have met on a daily basis with many muslims while i was in lebanon. Most are very nice and others have no maners and paligamists, that beleive ifyour not a muslim youhsould burn in hell.

All in all though it is a good religion; just as all teh other monothesisms are.

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Last edited by DryFire, December 25th, 2003 03:46 PM (Edited 1 times)

i think its like that with all religons iv met *widos* that where christions that though if you didnt go to chearch you would go to hell... but then i asked but i though "god" was supposed to forgive us... she dosent talk to me anymore lol::angry::

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Originally posted by Arctic
I can't say i'm a huge fan of Islam (Mainly due to how they treat women, and the way in which a lot of Islamic clerics seem to think that islamic states are a good idea), but then again, i'm not a huge fan of religion full stop, so it isn't exactly Islam alone that i dislike.

eh?

1. What clergy? There is no organized clergy in Islam - 'clergy' are self-annoited in their claims.
2. How are woman treated badly? [separate the religion from the culture]

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I have seen women who come dressed ocmpletly in back and there is a small slit the width of a pencil for them to see through. Seems a bit backward to me but this is more a cultural thing the religous.

Thats the culture dictating, not the religion

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I don't know how much Islam is misunderstood religion..but I think it is one the most misused religions. If I remember right, there is no mention in any book that you need to treat womans like Darthty said, this really isn't 1400.

But I can also remember wrong..

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Originally posted by AhmedF

Thats the culture dictating, not the religion

I believe i cleared that up with this:

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Originally posted by DryFire

The Qu'ran (koran) has been misinterprited by some people. which does not surprise me as teh arabic used in it is almost cryptic.

Don't forget culture is usually derived from geographic location and religion. I know there are muslims in India and africa who are free to show there arms and ancles.

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but is the 'holy war' , connected with terrorism, dictated only by religion or is it in a way the culture's fault..

it may be the same issue, as with the women. many of you thought, that the way they treat women is because of religion..DryFire explained - it's a cultural thing..

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To clarify on that too, Jihad itself means 'struggle against opression'. Holy war [what makes it holy? ] is a byproduct, but it is not Jihad itself. Taking political or social routes instead of a violent path is preferred in Jihad.

Furthermore, the religion STRICTLY states that if in war, children, women, the elderly, and buildings are not to be touched.

Its a religion about peace and modesty ::chinese:

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Originally posted by AhmedF
Its a religion about peace and modesty ::chinese:

Well then Islam is VERY VERY much misused.

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