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no, thats not my point.

On a personal note, I don't do drugs. I don't smoke. I drink rarely, and thats getting to be less and less. Nor do I believe drugs are good. If anything, I'd be happier if people stopped drugs all together.

But making stuff illegal isn't helping.
Obviously.

Instead of having marijuanna be illegal, why not put it on the market and tax the hell outa it. Yknow, make it twice as expensive as it is now. And then use that money to educate and such. Because education is the key.

Take this example. In italy, there is no drinking age. But there also aren't hordes of drunk 16 year olds. Italians in general respect the wine they drink, and don't abuse it nearly as much as us americans. Why?
Their culture is different. Kids are taught to not drink gross amounts. Their parents are good role models. Their society doens't wear pot leaves around their necks. Or designed on their shirts.

Thats where america has gone wrong. Suddenly getting high is cool. I see it all the time on campus. So, why doesn't america work there, focus the youth, and try its hardest as a country to reform the way kids grow up. Thats the only way this problem is going to get solved.

But hey, we can always sit back, keep the things that harm us illegal, spend tax payers money on enforcing these laws, and keep believing thats going to make people stop. Because its bad for them.

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we aren't hear to debate who controls the government. we're talking about the legalization of marijuana, and the pro's and con's to it. so far the only con's i've heard in the recent posts are along the lines of "weed's dumb" and "anyone that uses dope is pathetic"

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nykoelle, i wouldn't compare 2 countries that are very dissimilar - 2 different cultures, history etc. you're not going to find 16 year old drinkers over here for a reason.

so far the only thing i've heard out of you bomb is ignorance. we're talking about legalization of marijuana - yes - who controls the gov't is a big part of that process. who else is going to make it illegal/legal?

here's some cons to chew on:

'1. Marijuana is often used as a stepping-stone drug, leading to heroin, cocaine, or other harder drugs.
2. Stoned driving and other dangers would be increased.
3. Some consider use of the drug as morally wrong.
4. Legalization would increase the chances of the drug falling into the hands of kids.
5. Physical damage would be done to users that abuse the drug.'

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xerodark,
that's a very good post. thanks for the input and glad to see you quit. was it difficult to quit?

No i not at all..I just desided to stop and did. Smokeing weed to realieve stress is no different the drinking to have a good time/ realieve stress. The only difference is that weed is illgeal.

Whoever said using drugs to realieve stress is stupid and think that person is! That is the most stupidest thing i have ever heard. Yes there are better ways you can realieve stress. But you use drugs to realive pain. So thats the difference? Thats like saying religion is for weak people and if you have only one leg using cruches is for weak people too! They should just hop around, Ignorace must be bliss.

But if weed was legal it should be used sinceably like achool! While i dont support the legalization of weed becuase i think people can go without it. I dont want to cut it out completely becuase it can also do some good.

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not really. medicinal purposes can be achieved with other medical treatments out there.

Using a crutch is entirely different. You are unable to walk on that leg.

Using mj for relieving stress is pure f'ing stupidity. If you are inept to handle your mental stability you need mental help not mjuana. It's a temp. fix.

You want to know pathetic? people who want to legalize marijuana so young kids can get there hands on it. If you don't think that's wrong then I feel sorry for you.

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What is the difference between achool and mj ? Nothing i can think of both do the same thing. Kids can get ahold of achool too.

I have personaly and i know people that have got though hard times becuase they needed somthing to realax them or else would do somthing stupid. I dont know what kind of life style you live or lived but i am guessing not a hard one. Still using pain medice to cop with pain and using mj to deal with pain or metal calmness is no different. And you should feel sorry for kids to get there hands on mj, guns, achool, house cleaner, ect. I know i do. The way i look at it is if kids want to get there hands on it they will no matter if its against the law or not.

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I myself am an avid marijuana smoker and have had no problems with it. and yes alchohol is just like marijuana. I say legalize it and let us be free with it.

Vapourizer: dont like all the really bad **** in it, use a vapourizer to clean it out.

Eat it: I eat it sometimes myself although it takes longer to get a high its more healthy.

Noone has died from marijuana, people can only die because of it and their stupidity with the terrirtory around you when your smoking it.

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The way i look at it is if kids want to get there hands on it they will no matter if its against the law or not.

yes, but legalizing it makes it all that the more easier to get. you'd have to be a sick f* to want 9 year olds walking around high.

there's a lot of differences between mj and alcohol. just because this thread isn't about alcohol doesn't mean i or others disagree with that as well.

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I have personaly and i know people that have got though hard times becuase they needed somthing to realax them or else would do somthing stupid.

and that is a temp fix. hence mental stability. i've gone through a lot of dumb stuff but being a healthy minded person and brought up right I am/was able to make correct decisions.

i just think it's a matter of age issues. personally i don't care if you smoke weed, you're an alcoholic, or whatever.. you're just trash to me. what i'm worried about is if they make it legal it will undoubtily get in the hands of kids by 10+ fold.

the world has a lot of ****tiness in it and that's something we don't need.

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tobacco is legal. are there 9 year olds walking around smoking that?
as is alcohol. Weed's expensive as hell, where are said 9 yuear olds getting the money for it? From their older broether? The old brother is smoking weed now, how would the legalizaation chance that at all?

High driving would be procecuted the same way drunk driving is How would that danger increase? It already happens. So does drunk driving.

Again, my point is. Its getting used just plenty being illegal, how much more cna it get used if its legal? Did you guys even read what I said? Use that money to teach the kids, its the only way.

All these thigns about how marijuanan is bad for you almost doesnt apply. We know, but that doens't even apply. Its not about that, its about what the government should do about it/

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If marijuana was legal, it wouldn't be as cool to smoke it as it is now, in the eyes of teenagers.
From a medical point of view, their seems nothing wrong with marijuana that has been proven beyond doubt.
Also, from a social perspective, it is a very sociable drug, where you can relax with freinds. I have smoked marijuana on many occasions, and have only experienced one ill effect, which was when I smoked it after consuming a large amount of alcohol.
The first time I smoked it, I really enjoyed myself, and found everything in my surrounding environment extremely funny, and me and my freinds had a great time.
In the area where I live, everyone goes around smoking marijuana, and the police, if they have caught you in possesion of marijuana, simply remove it and leave you will the message of "don't do it again".

It should be legalized, but not in a free-for-all law, where it can be smoked anywhere while consuming anything with it (i.e. alcohol), there should be some restrictions on the usage of it.