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overselling = bad!

any good host only sells to what his server can take and prices acordingly.

What happens if by some freak chance every one uses there full quota how would you cope?

yes thats right you WILL HAVE TO buy a new server. and the cost will be incured by you!

also oversold servers are also overloaded servers this means that the server may unexpectedly crash for no reason again incuring you more costs.

I am sure that us hosts that have been in the business should know the advantages and disadvantages of overselling! why do you think we recently banned reselling on our servers?

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one example which proves my point. that forum isn't going to take up 10GB of space. With 10GB of bandwidth, it's nearly completely assured that that full 10GB of space will not be used in full. You're missing the point and making statements that keep

one example which proves it could use 10gb bandwidth which i believe is one of the quotas? what you just said is basically saying the plan is eye candy only.

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who definitely will not use all of the bandwidth

in your above statement i believe you were pointing out the main factor involved was the "space" since that was the quota i "proved your point" with. Also, how can you guaranatee they "definitely" wont use all of the bandwidth or space for that matter?

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in other words, it's not going to be using BOTH 10GB of space and 10GB of bandwidth at the same time =ever=, for any site. Backups, maybe.

it's overselling.

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overselling = bad!

any good host only sells to what his server can take and prices acordingly.

right, good oversellers do that too. They don't overload their servers if they do it right. Bad oversellers take on more than they can handle.

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What happens if by some freak chance every one uses there full quota how would you cope?

freak chance. that's not a strong argument, but assume it will happen and just accomodate for a bit extra bandwidth. Safety margins. It's not going to happen all at once, and if it does they can see from monitoring the bandwidth and take preventative action (if all the sites make that much traffic there's more opportunity to make money).

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yes thats right you WILL HAVE TO buy a new server. and the cost will be incured by you!

No, just more bandwidth (maybe) and a new HD (probably). If there's too many and the server is bucking under the load, just funnel the profits into buying a new server. I assume that you're talking about a small host, as a larger host would most likely have the money to do this easily if necessary.

the host is providing that kind of hosting becuase it can be given the host is backed up by oktagone

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koko when did you even get into the hosting business?

did you just buy a book on hosting that did not cover overselling?

both me and Proweb are going by experience!

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koko when did you even get into the hosting business?

did you just buy a book on hosting that did not cover overselling?

both me and Proweb are going by experience!

pfft. some people have *different* experiences. maybe i'm disillusioned because of my own different experiences?

Koko, that's rather ridiculous. Crap like that attracts Warez clans and crap, along with other malicious bull, for $3 anyways, if people knew how to actually charge it would be different.

Let's think business for awhile? You seem to be bent on it. Let's say everyone signs up for that $3 plan, you have 1000 clients, that's $3000, and you can barely afford your staff to keep the hours to keep up with clients e-mails, support, and billing. Oh my, but it's a great deal?

There is more to business than profit, there is accountability, payroll, expenses, expansion, etc. Overselling is common, everyone does it, but don't do it ridiculously. We all oversell, mostly it's bandwidth as opposed to diskspace. The average HD hosts have is 120GB, and that's 12 clients on $3 which is a grand total of $36 profit for the server, which will go into paying for the server. and if you were to dangerously oversell, say 50 clients? $180, still not really much to pay for staff, the server, and the software support for what you use. How's that for business

This company Odin is representing is an idiot, and completely why the hosting industry has so many bad experiences. Odin, say what you want, but this is the most ridiculous crap I've seen.

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Koko, that's rather ridiculous. Crap like that attracts Warez clans and crap, along with other malicious bull, for $3 anyways, if people knew how to actually charge it would be different.

huh? i'm not offering the plan, he is.

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Let's think business for awhile? You seem to be bent on it. Let's say everyone signs up for that $3 plan, you have 1000 clients, that's $3000, and you can barely afford your staff to keep the hours to keep up with clients e-mails, support, and billing. Oh my, but it's a great deal?

i have nothing to argue with. that gross overselling is not smart.

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Overselling is common, everyone does it, but don't do it ridiculously.

isn't that what i've been saying? I agree. (btw, i've worked closely with a friend who's a webhost)

My respect for you continues to rise

Ah, alright. I know you weren't offering the plan, these threads get confusing

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well actualy the hosting if for a limited time only until the host ( bluewolf72 ) gets the new site then new hosting plans will be set and this one will be lost in the air

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